Power supply

topic posted Wed, July 27, 2005 - 10:04 AM by  jesse

i am looking to invest in a basic power supply for burning man. our camp is purchasing a large generator and i would like to be able to charge a battery off it and then connect the battery to an inverter in my structure. ideally i would like to power 2 or 3 compact florescent light bulbs and an aiwa compact stereo system. if that's too much juice i can lose the stereo system - my main concern is the lighting.

i am new at this - can anyone point me in the right direction of what type inverter and battery i should purchase?

thanks

jesse
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jesse
  • Re: Power supply

    Wed, July 27, 2005 - 12:57 PM
    The inverter can be a cheapy from harbor freight or the like. I actually think costco has a decent inverter. There is no need to go for the pure sine wave with the devices you are looking at.

    To start with, look at how many watts you are looking to use. Most devices have a peak power rating or some other form of power rating. For each device decide how many hours you think you will need to power it and then total it all up. This is your expected energy usage. Then I would oversize by about 20% to compensate for losses, etc.

    Example:

    So say you have a 12w cf bulb,

    12 w x 8 hrs = 96 watts total.

    So your inverter would need to be about a 20watt, and then you say how many amps you need total and per hour, so you say have a requirement of 12 watts at 12vdc = 1 amp/hour or 8 amps total.

    So basically you then use those numbers to find a battery that meets your requirements.

    For your needs you could probably get away with a 500 watt inverter and a simple deep cell battery for a car.
    • Re: Power supply

      Thu, August 18, 2005 - 9:25 AM

      Thanks for the info. So you think 1 deep cycle car battery can power 500 watts continously for 8 hours? What amp rating do you reccomend for the battery?

      My other question is - do i need to purchase a battery charger or can i charge this type of batter directly off a generator?

      Jesse
      • Re: Power supply

        Fri, August 19, 2005 - 7:42 PM
        For 500w:

        500 w /12 v = ~ 42 amps.

        So you would need a battery that could handle that kind of output. If you assume a depth of discharge of about 50% for a battery then you would need one capable of about 100 amp/hours. That is going to be a good sized battery. Talk with a local battery dealer, like Batteries Plus about what they have that would work. Your standard deep cycle battery may work, but I'd hesitate to say.

        As for charging, some generators now come with a battery charging plug in. If not, then you will need some form of battery charger.

        Good luck jesse!
        • Re: Power supply

          Sat, August 20, 2005 - 10:53 PM

          thanks - i'm getting it dialed in.

          any experience charging a powerbook or ipod with a modified sine wave inverter?
          • Re: Power supply

            Mon, August 22, 2005 - 10:15 AM
            Shouldn't be a problem since they have a transformer and should settle the power condition.

            I have known of several people who charged directly from the solar panel to the laptop though, minimal efficiency loss. Just make sure you match your voltages.

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